This is the final edition of Rebel Wisdom's series of films looking at the claims that have been made around the drug Ivermectin and vaccine safety on Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying's Dark Horse podcast (timecodes for content listed below).
It is released at the same time as an important interview with Eric Osgood MD telling the real backstory of what has been happening with Pierre Kory's FrontLine Covid-19 Critical Care Alliance: https://youtu.be/XClxXWWuyG4
(This video freezes around half an hour before the end - apologies - was an error with the original video file).
The previous film in this series was our investigation into the claims on the Dark Horse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plLmTWHeKrI&t=13s
Yuri Deigin's response to Bret Weinstein is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwzfnZfo-rU
Articles and videos mentioned here:
Atlantic article on Robert Malone: https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/08/robert-malone-vaccine-inventor-vaccine-skeptic/619734/
Debate between Steve Kirsch and Avi Bitterman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1nF2YAn9DQ
Most of this film was recorded in a live event in Rebel Wisdom's Digital Campfire, to join conversations like this, check out the membership options here: https://rebelwisdom.co.uk/plans
Timecodes for content:
02:50 - Structure of call, address criticisms
04:30 - Tried to avoid oppositional back and forth
07:34 - What are our obligations in the alternative media space?
08:22 - Accusations of Bad Faith
13:23 - Beware of powerful narratives on both sides
16:12 - Why don't we change our minds?
21:35 - Heather Heying - "no careful scientific pushback"
26:10 - Assessing the science on Ivermectin
29:44 - "Skipped animal trials"
31:20 - The Case of Leslie Lawrenson
32:00 - Vaccines created variants?
36:18 - Bret Weinstein - "I'm deeply frustrated with David"
40:58 - Why I interviewed Yuri Deigin
47:00 - The narrative around Ivermectin falls apart
51:49 - If you don't call out the bullshit on your own side, you cannot be trusted
52:10 - Is Robert Malone a "whistleblower"?
54:26 - Andrew Wakefield and the history of the anti-vaccine movement
57:24 - Avoiding any kind of dialogue with people who disagree
01:00:12 - Rebel Wisdom? More like conventional wisdom!
01:02:11 Question - Does the responsibility for balance lie with individual podcasters or the entire ecosystem?
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